Joetastic Defense: Refuting Dylan's False Claims 2025
Table of Contents
- Introduction
- Context & Timeline
- False Accusations and Clarifications
- Addressing Dylan's Document and Its Impact
- Full Transparency: Discord DM Archive
- Conclusion
- A Personal Note from Joetastic
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Introduction
This document is a joint statement written in defense of Joetastic (hereafter referred to as Joe), a creator in the Mouthwashing community, who has recently been the target of misinformation, mischaracterization, and public defamation. The accusations originate from a former collaborator, Dylan (also known as Dylan/anyamusumesonlywife), and have circulated via a Google Docs document, two TikTok videos, one Tumblr post, and several word-of-mouth messages in community servers. This statement reflects not only Joe's perspective, but also that of peers, colleagues, and neutral parties who have reviewed the evidence and feel compelled to clarify what truly occurred.
This document is not intended to cause harm, incite harassment, or encourage retaliation against Dylan in any form. Its sole purpose is to clarify the facts, present context, and refute the false claims that have been made about Joe. While emotions are understandably high, readers are asked to approach this with maturity and respect. This is about defending someone’s character, not attacking another’s. Any form of harassment directed toward Dylan or anyone involved is strongly discouraged and not condoned by Joe or anyone contributing to this statement.
Context & Timeline
December 26, 2024: Joe contacts Dylan on Discord asking permission to use their OC in a fan animation. Dylan responds enthusiastically, stating: “YOU CAN 100000% USE MY OC IN ANYTHING!! ID BE SO HONORED.”
Over the following weeks, Dylan provides detailed reference material, lore, and expresses gratitude. They never object to any creative decisions made during this period. Joe maintains professional, transparent communication throughout, even clarifying their pronouns so as to not misgender their OC accidentally. There is no indication of discomfort or distress from Dylan.
January 11, 2025: Joe starts becoming increasingly uncomfortable using someone else’s OC for public-facing content. This is influenced by private feedback and the growing popularity of his work. Joe begins planning an original character, Eira, as a way to tell WLW stories while keeping personal and professional lines clearer.
January 12, 2025: Dylan noticeably starts to change attitude and starts pressuring Joe with statements about visibility and posting. Joe discusses making the OC video for free to make it up to Dylan and labeling it as a commission to protect both of them from harassment regarding favoritism, which Dylan agreed with and voiced no complaints. Keep in mind that despite Joe quoting Dylan $40 for a casual model of Dylan’s OC, the transaction has not been made yet and Dylan has not paid for anything.
January 15, 2025: Dylan tells Joe that people are sending cruel messages to them because he was going to use their OC. Joe suggests turning off anonymous inboxes to stop harassment. Dylan declines to turn it off on their other RP account and continues showing the harassment they have received. Joe posts on Tumblr asking readers not to harass Dylan.
February 27, 2025: Joe debuts Eira publicly. The character receives instant fan praise, with followers eager to see more interactions between Eira and Anya.
March 2, 2025: Dylan sends a lengthy private message confessing hurt and jealousy over Eira’s reception. Joe reassures Dylan and emphasizes that he never intended to compete or hurt them. Dylan expresses upset that their OC did not get the chance to be used by Joe. Joe explains that it’s for the best to prevent mischaracterization of Dylan and possible harm to his feelings.
March 4, 2025: Joe creates and sends a free custom animation featuring Dylan’s OC as a farewell offering. He states he respects their feelings and will no longer use their OC in public-facing work. Dylan believed the video would be posted publicly, but Joe clarified he would not post it.
March 8, 2025: Dylan blames Joe for harassment and taking the spotlight from sapphic people. Joe reiterates that harassers do not represent him and confirms he does not condone harassment.
March 9, 2025: Joe stops engaging with Dylan for his own well-being, after persistent blame and pressure.
March 12, 2025: Dylan circulates a document on a private server framing Joe as manipulative, inconsiderate, and abusive, despite prior agreements to part ways.
March 13, 2025: Joe learns about the leaked document and confirms Dylan’s actions. He formally requests that Dylan no longer use the free work and remove related posts from social media.
March 15, 2025: Dylan publishes a Tumblr post detailing their side of the situation, reigniting the narrative. Joe hopes for de-escalation by not engaging publicly.
March 21, 2025: Joe releases a new animation featuring Eira and Anya. Dylan accuses Joe of stealing their animation idea, despite no contribution from Dylan. The post is followed by a series of messages from Dylan to Joe expressing distress and insomnia.
March 28, 2025: Dylan’s hostility increases in the Wrong Organ server. Dylan privately messages several members to discuss Joe.
March 30, 2025: Dylan posts two TikTok videos accusing Joe of stalking and harassing them, and makes other defamatory claims. Wrong Organ moderators provide a statement asserting the videos do not violate server rules. Dylan’s videos gain significant traction online with millions of views across platforms.
Current time: A group of concerned community members and Joe have been compiling evidence to clarify facts and counter misinformation. Joe speaks publicly to defend truth, share context, and promote peace.
False Accusations and Clarifications
- "Joe did things to hurt me." Joe never acted with the intent to hurt Dylan; grievances stem from jealousy over content focus and visibility. They do not indicate wrongdoing.
- "Joe avoided talking to me." Dylan blocked Joe multiple times, making conversation impossible; Dylan admitted to saying, in a voice message, that they wanted to talk but blocked Joe right after.
- "The document was private." Dylan admitted to creating the document and sharing it with Mouthwashing Moderators, then leaking it to other platforms.
- "Joe sexualized my OC." A miscommunication about chest size occurred; it was corrected once Dylan expressed discomfort. No sexual content was produced.
- "Joe is a cishet man pushing 30." Joe’s age and sexuality are private; such claims are personal attacks not relevant to work.
- "Joe’s fans are harassing me." Joe publicly urged fans not to harass anyone; Dylan admitted to deleting alleged threats before documenting them.
- "He demanded I take down content out of spite." Joe requested removal of content after learning Dylan was spreading a document; he also refunded $10.
- "Joe stole my idea." Eira’s story and character dynamics were Joe’s original creation; Dylan did not contribute to the actual work.
Addressing Dylan’s Document and Its Impact
Dylan created a document filled with out-of-context screenshots and omitted messages; below are direct responses to some accusations:
1) On Misgendering: Joe asked for Dylan’s preferred pronouns and apologized when misnaming happened. He adjusted pronouns when asked and did not act with malicious intent.
2) The Model Miscommunication: Dylan initially agreed to a casual model; Joe later proposed a different modeler. Dylan did not object; the chest-size issue was a modeler’s placeholder choice.
3) The Jimmy Comment: A single Discord comment about a character being flirtatious isn’t equivalent to planning abuse or trauma.
4) On “Lying to His Fans” and Commissions: Joe acknowledged labeling the animation as a commission to avoid drama, though it was offered for free. He later admitted this was not ideal and could have been handled more transparently.
5) The “Incorrect” Commission and Animation Limitations: Several requests, like kissing animations, were complex and would require redoing motion capture. For a free commission aimed at repair, redoing entirely wasn’t feasible. The situation reflects miscommunication and shifting boundaries rather than malicious intent.
Contradictions Between DMs and Dylan’s Document
- Dylan’s DMs contained explicit permission to use Dylan’s OC, later claiming pressure or manipulation.
- Dylan claimed the document was private yet admitted sharing it with developers.
- Dylan claimed to want no drama yet continued posting publicly.
Addressing Dylan’s Document and Its Impact (Continued)
The document also includes discussions about misgendering, the model miscommunication, and the balance between creative freedom and community standards. It argues that Joe’s work remains his own, and that Dylan did not contribute to the writing, animation, direction, or production of the videos and animations in question. The claim that Joe should credit Dylan for an “idea” is presented as misleading because Dylan did not participate in the production process.
Full Transparency: Discord DM Archive
Statement from Joetastic: I am releasing the full Discord DM history between myself and Dylan, unedited and timestamped, in HTML format and a video scroll-through. This is to correct the record since Dylan selectively leaked private messages and spread misinformation. The DM archive includes tone, context, and boundaries that were missing from public posts. Download/Read the DM Archive (HTML format – Desktop only):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eBIc6smyRHxXLXXJbJ-Z0jchmRgEQS12/view?usp=drive_link
Note: The HTML version works best on desktop; attachments may be missing due to message deletions.
Watch the Full Scroll-Through Video (Includes deleted attachments):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tL2gpgRe3vhZn1tUx3lC9ZojQq4YhETr/view?usp=drive_link
This video captures the entire DM history, including deleted messages and missing attachments. No sensitive third-party information is shown. This is not meant to shame or harass; it is to provide a complete view for readers to decide what happened.
Conclusion
What began as a creative collaboration evolved into a public smear campaign built on selective context, miscommunication, and manipulation. Dylan’s claims have been addressed with evidence, including screenshots, full message logs, and independent testimonies. A broader pattern of emotional manipulation and harassment is presented through testimonies from multiple individuals. Joe has chosen to defend truth and transparency, offering full context to protect reputations and relationships within the community. Joe remains open to peaceful resolution and invites questions directly.
A Personal Note from Joetastic
Throughout this situation, I’ve faced hate, harassment, and even death threats. I understand how misinformation spreads when only one side is presented. I forgive those who have engaged in the spreading of rumors and invite constructive dialogue toward resolution and healing. If you were part of the private server where Dylan shared their document, if you said something cruel, or if you have apologized, you are welcome to reach out. My goal is to move forward with honesty, accountability, and compassion. I am open to peaceful resolution and urge others to do the same.
Note: The original document contains numerous image references and chat excerpts that illustrate key moments in the dispute. See the linked DM archive and related images for context.
Images and Media (representative samples)
- Image: Discord DM screenshots illustrating conversations between Joetastic and Dylan.
- Image: Tumblr and Discord posts referenced in the timeline.
Appendix: Direct Links & References
- Beware: Dylan document (external link) – https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dHJmeQNC6hmar0B-aCTlzY0ydWvZyQLHmYwMHm6Y/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.47b0p9x1f16p
- DM Archive HTML (desktop): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eBIc6smyRHxXLXXJbJ-Z0jchmRgEQS12/view?usp=drive_link
- Scroll-Through Video: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tL2gpgRe3vhZn1tUx3lC9ZojQq4YhETr/view?usp=drive_link
Final Note
This document is published to provide transparency, defend truth, and foster respectful discussion. It is not intended to escalate conflict but to clarify the record for the benefit of the community and the individuals involved.
About the Authoring Parties
Concerns and statements come from Joetastic and a coalition of peers and supporters within the Mouthwashing community who advocate for accurate, respectful discourse and accountability in online collaborations.