Cursed Gifts Raid Spreadsheet Update and Community Notes
Table of Contents
- Introduction
- What to Expect
- Important Notes
- Special Thanks and Credits
- Class and Build Data Overview
- PI Assignments
- DPS Simulations and Talent Trees
- SPEC DPS SIM Sources
- MYSTIC (DRUID/HUNT/MAGE) and VENERATED (PRI/SHAM/PAL) Categories
- ZENITH (MONK/ROG/WARR/EVO) Category
- Changelog
- What to Consider When Using This Spreadsheet
- Changelog Summary and Updates
- Usage and Research Notes
- Changelog Details and Dynamic Timers
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Introduction
INTRODUCTION !BREAKING NEWS! USEFUL LINKS
Hello and thank you for taking the time to check out my work! My name is Ulria and I am the GM/RL of Cursed Gifts on Tarren Mill. This all started by me wanting to create
a sheet with baseline information about the upcoming raid for personal use. I
happened to share it with couple of people in RLE discord and it gained quite some
traction and I have decided to maintain this project throughout the tiers. We are
already on the third installment of this spreadsheet and I hope you find that every time
it gets better as I am always working on ways of improving everything - from layout to
adding extra features etc.
The sheet is constantly being updated throughout the tier - when APL changes,
tunings of classes or items, etc., I strive to update everything ASAP so I can provide
the most accurate information available.
Huge shoutout to many of the theorycrafters for helping me keep this as accurate as
possible, to Viserio for helping me with the design of the sheet, many guildies and other friends for helping out with numerous things, to my current patreons for showing
me some love! Special thanks with shoutouts can be found on the right side!
So much work and time goes into gathering all the info, doing the sims and resimming
to keep everything up to date. If you feel like showing me some support please
consider hanging around in my stream and maybe giving me a follow or if you want to
take it one step further consider subscribing to my patreon! All relevant links are on the
right side.
Feel free to use and share the sheet if you want to and if there are any inaccuracies or
you have any questions you can always reach me on my discord - ulria
SHEET IS FULLY UP TO DATE! Published version
Discord
WHAT TO EXPECT
1. All sims to be updated regularly. Patreon 2. Fill missing info if any profiles are MIA at the start of the patch
3. Open to suggestions!
4. :) Twitch
IMPORTANT NOTES YouTube
Please, when using this sheet always apply critical thinking
and logic behind how things are done here vs actual
scenarios. Sims are and will ALWAYS be in vacuum
situations and not ideal representation. Check the final tab -
CONSIDERATIONS for more in depth info.
If you wish to ask me any questions you can feel free to join
my discord. Apart from sheet information I will also provide
other useful things such as short raid guides, tips and tricks.
Raidbots
Special thanks to the people who
helped and contributed to the sheet:
Kider / Spellcro / Viserio / Mazz / Koxy / Geek / Tarlo / Taeznak / Malacath
/ Fuu / Hursti / Maymays / Shadarek / Chickenxd / Thyminde / Werdup / Publik / zac / bolas / Khazak / Norrinir / Garm / Aagman / oxi / Oi / bees / ZeuS / Azortharion / Degenhours / Manather / Guiltyas / Zommoros / Fluttershy / Saeldur / Miasna / Porom / Imm0 / Puupeika / Gistwiki
Special thanks to my twitch/patreon subs:
You guys are amazing and at this point you are so many
that I cannot fit you all in here! Just know that my sincerest gratitudes are all yours and it's thanks to you and all
the people who use the sheet that I keep doing this tier
after tier!
Class and Build Top 5 PI on CD Class and Build Top 5 0p-4p
Feral Druid Wildstalker 350,390 BM Hunter Dark Ranger 2,378,600
Deva Evoker Flameshaper 338,492 Enh Shaman Stormbringer 1,528,211
Aff Wlock Soul Harvester 336,764 Havoc DH Fel Scarred 1,373,111
Aff Wlock Hellcaller 320,661 UH DK Sanlayn 1,318,326
UH DK Rider 300,667 Fire Mage Sunfury 1,284,873
Class and Build Top 5 PI (Spriest timings) Class and Build Top 5 PI 40 SECS OPENER
Deva Evoker SC 364,156 Feral Druid Wildstalker 1,185,380
Deva Evoker Flameshaper 361,263 UH DK Rider 1,156,823
Feral Druid Wildstalker 337,842 UH DK Sanlayn 1,144,135
Aff Wlock Hellcaller 309,489 Deva Evoker Flameshaper 1,084,445
Aff Wlock Soul Harvester 293,317 Deva Evoker SC 1,082,618
Pi assignments
4p no PI -> 4p PI on CD
Raw number % gain
4p no PI -> 4p PI on Spriest
Timings Raw number % gain
4p no PI -> 4p PI on 40 sec opener Raw number % gain
Feral Druid Wildstalker 350,390 5.48% Deva Evoker SC 364,156 5.99% Feral Druid Wildstalker 1,185,380 10.64%
Deva Evoker Flameshaper 338,492 5.57% Deva Evoker Flameshaper 361,263 5.94% UH DK Rider 1,156,823 9.87%
Aff Wlock Soul Harvester 336,764 5.64% Feral Druid Wildstalker 337,842 5.28% UH DK Sanlayn 1,144,135 10.32%
Aff Wlock Hellcaller 320,661 5.63% Aff Wlock Hellcaller 309,489 5.43% Deva Evoker Flameshaper 1,084,445 10.06%
UH DK Rider 300,667 4.60% Aff Wlock Soul Harvester 293,317 4.91% Deva Evoker SC 1,082,618 10.04%
Feral Druid Claw 298,937 4.69% Balance Druid Elune 287,439 5.03% Aff Wlock Hellcaller 987,350 10.42%
Balance Druid Elune 288,677 5.05% Demo Wlock Diabolist 286,574 4.48% Aff Wlock Soul Harvester 931,004 9.55%
Demo Wlock Diabolist 282,981 4.42% Feral Druid Claw 277,129 4.35% Feral Druid Claw 914,613 8.06%
Frost DK Rider 269,966 4.52% Survival Hunter Pack Leader 262,270 4.38% Balance Druid Elune 876,904 8.81%
UH DK Sanlayn 267,303 4.10% UH DK Rider 255,068 3.90% Demo Wlock Diabolist 826,294 9.89%
Enh Shaman Stormbringer 266,136 4.33% UH DK Sanlayn 245,617 3.76% Frost DK Deathbringer 668,375 7.07%
Survival Hunter Pack Leader 260,379 4.35% Destro Wlock Hellcaller 240,706 4.20% Demo Wlock Soul Harvester 665,952 8.56%
Fire Mage Sunfury 257,276 4.11% Enh Shaman Stormbringer 235,669 3.84% Shadow Priest Archon 610,552 6.58%
Destro Wlock Hellcaller 250,573 4.38% M|DDestro Wlock Hellcaller 240,706 4.20% Demo Wlock Soul Harvester 665,952 8.56%
Frost DK Deathbringer 248,960 4.03% Demo Wlock Soul Harvester 213,855 3.30% WW Monk Conduit 570,430 5.34%
BM Hunter Dark Ranger 243,427 3.96% BM Hunter Pack Leader 202,448 3.28% Survival Hunter Pack Leader 517,246 5.63%
Demo Wlock Soul Harvester 238,144 3.67% WW Monk Shado-Pan 200,060 3.30% Arcane Mage Sunfury 503,263 5.79%
Deva Evoker SC 214,818 3.51% Ret Paladin Templar 186,172 3.04% Assa Rogue Deathstalker 459,951 5.37%
WW Monk Conduit 204,444 3.33% WW Monk Conduit 204,444 3.33% Arms Warrior Slayer 184,431 2.99%
WW Monk Shado-Pan 223,819 3.69% Fire Mage Sunfury 199,718 3.20% MM Hunter Dark Ranger 472,227 5.81%
Deva Evoker SC 214,818 3.51% Ret Paladin Templar 186,172 3.04% Assa Rogue Deathstalker 459,951 5.37%
Arms Warrior Slayer 199,529 3.23% Arcane Mage Sunfury 179,879 2.91% Enh Shaman Totemic 440,576 5.41%
Ret Paladin Herald 197,924 3.44% Ret Paladin Herald 178,676 3.11% Destro Wlock Diabolist 435,456 5.54%
BM Hunter Pack Leader 197,741 3.20% BM Hunter Pack Leader 202,448 3.28% Ret Paladin Templar 434,122 5.49%
Ret Paladin Templar 191,575 3.13% Destro Wlock Diabolist 174,980 2.67% Ele Shaman Stormbringer 421,364 4.58%
Balance Druid Keeper 189,465 2.94% Assa Rogue Deathstalker 173,343 3.33% Destro Wlock Hellcaller 417,987 5.41%
Destro Wlock Diabolist 186,358 2.84% Ele Shaman Stormbringer 168,824 3.14% Arcane Mage Spellslinger 405,212 4.97%
Enh Shaman Totemic 184,695 3.47% WW Monk Conduit 167,360 2.73% Balance Druid Keeper 403,664 3.11%
Fire Mage Frostfire 184,070 3.28% Frost Mage Spellslinger 166,253 2.58% Ret Paladin Herald 402,065 5.38%
Assa Rogue Deathstalker 180,699 3.47% Ele Shaman Farseer 164,873 2.47% MM Hunter Sentinel 386,364 5.00%
Arcane Mage Sunfury 179,103 2.89% Frost DK Rider 160,338 2.68% Assa Rogue Fatebound 376,943 4.29%
Ele Shaman Stormbringer 177,331 3.30% Frost DK Deathbringer 159,612 2.58% Enh Shaman Stormbringer 368,037 6.09%
MM Hunter Sentinel 174,686 3.02% Arcane Mage Spellslinger 145,678 2.51% MM Hunter Sentinel 503,263 5.79%
Shadow Priest Archon 173,365 2.84% Havoc DH Fel Scarred 149,823 2.51% Arms Warrior Slayer 349,142 4.51%
Ele Shaman Farseer 171,161 2.56% Balance Druid Keeper 149,745 2.32% Ele Shaman Farseer 317,442 2.66%
Arms Warrior Colossus 168,688 3.03% Arcane Mage Spellslinger 145,678 2.51% BM Hunter Dark Ranger 317,422 5.09%
Frost Mage Spellslinger 168,149 2.61% MM Hunter Dark Ranger 144,571 2.38% Fire Mage Frostfire 310,388 4.43%
Havoc DH Fel Scarred 167,295 2.80% Fury Warrior Slayer 144,139 2.27% Fury Warrior Slayer 294,723 3.92%
Arcane Mage Spellslinger 163,447 2.82% MM Hunter Sentinel 143,616 2.48% Arms Warrior Colossus 286,015 3.57%
Shadow Priest Voidweaver 136,292 2.29% Frost Mage Frostfire 125,422 1.95% Shadow Priest Voidweaver 280,695 3.24%
Frost Mage Frostfire 135,132 2.10% Assa Rogue Fatebound 125,252 2.09% Frost Mage Frostfire 262,820 3.17%
Havoc DH Aldrachi Reaver 133,429 2.25% Havoc DH Aldrachi Reaver 124,933 2.10% Fire Mage Sunfury 253,589 3.28%
Assa Rogue Fatebound 132,662 2.21% Fury Warrior Thane 116,955 2.17% Havoc DH Aldrachi Reaver 251,213 3.10%
Survival Hunter Sentinel 124,497 2.60% Survival Hunter Sentinel 115,026 2.40% Sub Rogue Deathstalker 233,312 2.97%
Fury Warrior Slayer 121,568 1.91% Sub Rogue Deathstalker 83,383 1.76% Frost Mage Spellslinger 224,292 2.60%
Fury Warrior Thane 107,750 2% Outlaw Rogue Trickster 77,863 1.45% Sub Rogue Trickster 206,809 2.11%
Sub Rogue Deathstalker 82,647 1.75% Sub Rogue Trickster 72,602 1.29% Outlaw Rogue Trickster 190,748 3.18%
Outlaw Rogue Trickster 81,757 1.52% Outlaw Rogue Fatebound 69,567 1.15% Outlaw Rogue Fatebound 182,989 2.64%
Sub Rogue Trickster 79,939 1.42% Havoc DH Fel Scarred 174,201 1.85%
Outlaw Rogue Fatebound 71,280 1.18% Fury Warrior Thane 126,311 1.73%
SPEC DPS SIM sources Talent tree
used
Ele Shaman Farseer 6,675,807 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/82CDdYEwkjagbUZwEhAY9i Tree
Destro Wlock Diabolist 6,563,567 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/b56KwDbqmx3VrjPC71otDj Tree
UH DK Rider 6,538,815 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pJTioPJpZk7xARZzL4k97Y Tree
UH DK Sanlayn 6,523,618 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rCYVWo43R3u3C1YCAgkuno Tree
Demo Wlock Diabolist 6,485,971 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bzW2sF9cv1U9M45ZG3ddQZ Tree
Balance Druid Keeper 6,449,827 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wrgmEB5Ao2x2MCh1LGuEhi Tree
Frost Mage Frostfire 6,440,819 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uKXqaFrpxnpDrbya8kb8Y2 Tree
Frost Mage Spellslinger 6,439,348 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8gpFpLjE8rqcaDyj2G2F68 Tree
Demo Wlock Soul Harvester 6,401,320 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4kHjRvTauebNjLoXeteCpm Tree
Feral Druid Wildstalker 6,397,157 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eBtdVjJDaCwukohueZhkf4 Tree
Feral Druid Claw 6,372,813 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/38Nibqr9Nu7DrtkykBr7MM Tree
Fury Warrior Slayer 6,357,013 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6LqGoVKwjVSSBemsY3DBEH Tree
Fire Mage Sunfury 6,250,885 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jpxfCF8Qi7q3KrhMFnjZjm Tree
Arcane Mage Sunfury 6,188,542 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fdMsbNMzgXUUwKJQFbUyBE Tree
Frost DK Deathbringer 6,183,259 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tpNQvtdkyrM2Ee6nZGCtQE Tree
Arms Warrior Slayer 6,171,755 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dseWFzwtDVVLi8w1faq3c5 Tree
BM Hunter Pack Leader 6,168,394 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wgRxiiKcMvxdrcithroyXm Tree
WW Monk Conduit 6,142,520 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9FjwSpkW2AeZDop8MEMiP4 Tree
Enh Shaman Stormbringer 6,140,452 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/k5eCC6n7ru9kPy4ijLvByU Tree
BM Hunter Dark Ranger 6,138,802 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aMbbXtkrdVwNaevP6LSwWf Tree
Ret Paladin Templar 6,128,567 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3aZj6Nka82dbvcR27KLL9 Tree
Deva Evoker SC 6,111,528 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jBbXdKsAbjaAuxRWHMx8Ka Tree
Shadow Priest Archon 6,109,598 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2wWrD5Pffwbc1UwWzkWuwF Tree
MM Hunter Dark Ranger 6,079,416 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1kryk8GyoCwMLEPEem1LNd Tree
Deva Evoker Flameshaper 6,077,838 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/urwu42ZLeovTJW1PDapNtG Tree
WW Monk Shado-Pan 6,061,322 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kY8Q7A58dyMcaPBkCGnniz Tree
Outlaw Rogue Fatebound 6,049,127 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2kn95r37DDi9TjiNLrERJZ Tree
Assa Rogue Fatebound 6,006,429 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bsx9bEyG8G1Cquq7wmyKyi Tree
Survival Hunter Pack Leader 5,984,390 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sPpcyZWRGsq52yB9vwXUP5 Tree
Aff Wlock Hellcaller 5,976,551 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3SBoUB5eP484Nap1UJJHy2 Tree
Frost DK Rider 5,972,217 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1VKqCvz7DbcgUmU8Vy9mZ4 Tree
Havoc DH Fel Scarred 5,965,685 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aTrCkijhgHscqJGV1erG7z Tree
Shadow Priest Voidweaver 5,957,534 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/us7bA1PTDvJ1Rtgz1NjeoZ Tree
Havoc DH Aldrachi Reaver 5,934,700 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9L8X5JcH654SgAX7Mw9tC1 Tree
Arcane Mage Spellslinger 5,797,614 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pVGmHFE6KK5euw1oa4jrpA Tree
MM Hunter Sentinel 5,787,041 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/b4A2DLgigmjNJsXn9cjDq3 Tree
Ret Paladin Herald 5,745,752 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/x6etxPMeJxvU8oYKR47vuo Tree
Destro Wlock Hellcaller 5,724,697 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/f45iPvh1ruGFCygFp4nB39 Tree
Balance Druid Elune 5,713,451 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jtKnyX5aekGHtRcbSPoWt8 Tree
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WHAT TO CONSIDER WHEN USING THIS SPREADSHEET!
Regarding tier sims:
1. 4p-4p sims use base s2 profile and swaps out tier pieces at ilvl 710 (6/6 hero track) as a replacement for 2p2p and s3 4p. Different APLS and builds are present for each combination. Do mind that this season with having two
hero trees people wanted to see sims for both so I have used the 'meta' s2 hero tree as a base for both sims.
Regarding PI sims:
1. Always remember that any sim is 'perfect conditions and play' so it will never reflect realistically how you or your guild members will play. Always look at the numbers logically and I always recommend simming yourselves to see actual numbers for your character as they may vary depending on your gear. Profiles use 'close to bis' item sets.
2. APLs are bound to change frequently, some APLs are not optimal yet and people find new things all the time including blizzard tuning classes/items. Do take that in mind. Sims will be updated often to keep them fresh in addition to updates after bigger tunings/patches come out.
3. Some tiers (especially for tanks) do not affect any DPS gain hence why numbers are very similar.
5. DYNAMIC TIMERS = command in SIMS which automatically invokes PI on CDs so it is intended to be more accurate than someone manually adding timers. Some specs do not support this so I have manually added timings.
GENERAL things to consider:
1. Every group and guild is different from each other. Do not take the numbers to heart because those are sims (aka perfect conditions) and players won't be able to hit them in general because of the nature of the fights.
2. Always consider what your goal as a guild is - some aim to push fast and high. Then tier set % gain would matter in the early stages. For some guilds doing equal spread of 2 set early on might be better purely for the social aspect.
3. This tier everyone pretty much has early guaranteed 2p (catalyst + aotc token) so your choice will mostly come down to how you want to handle 4p distribution!
4. If the tab !BREAKING NEWS! on the Welcome page is red that means there is something currently in progress being updated or to be updated very soon. If it is green it means everything is fine and up to date!
5. I am always open to suggestions, feedback and anything of that sort. Please, feel free to DM me on discord or join my discord with questions, suggestions or in case I have messed up something! Thank you!
Images and Visual References
- Image references and tables are embedded throughout the document to support the data presented. See the image gallery for the visual tables and charts.