Zenlen Zone Zero Dev Talk: Keep going, and you will arrive
Table of Contents
- Introduction
- 核心概念：目标感 (Sense of Purpose)
- 第二季与叙事进展 (Season 2 & Narrative Progress)
- 角色出场与长期规划 (Character Introductions & Long-term Planning)
- 游戏机制与体验：0号空洞 & Threshold Simulation
- 世界与活动设定：航天城、六分街、光映广场
- 活动与玩家互动：电影院、夏日活动等
- 联机与协作模式 (Multiplayer & Co-op)
- 前期体验与版本优化 (Early-Game & Optimizations)
- 结语 (Closing Thoughts)
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Introduction
Xiao Y 走进 MiHoYo 大楼，画面开头出现工作人员与场景。
黑桐谷歌 00:08
我其实挺好奇的，就是像“发牌”这种事情是你自己刷到的，还是说你的同事把你按在那里看的？
B: [I’m actually quite curious about how this whole “dealing cards” thing works. playful Did you stumble on it yourself while doom scrolling, or did your coworkers make you sit down and watch it?]
小Y 00:20
同事发给我看的。就是就很火，就是各个公司里面各个群里面，甚至我家人亲戚甚至
我妈妈都知道这个事情，对吧？她还发给我看，每次有新的更新了之后……
Y: [A coworker sent it to me. It was really popular. People in all sorts of company group chats were talking about it, and even my relatives, even my mom, know about it, you know? She even sends it to me…every time when there's a new update...]
Context of the “dealing cards”:
Xiao Y Edit version
Original
Bonus: Overlay on Dev Talk
Highlight these white texts after: Fans made this dealing cards video
because Xiao Y is so cute and always gives out free pulls on Preview
stream. Pulling characters is informally called drawing/pulling card in CN
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Xiao Y also personally played along with this joke in the 2.1 preview
program.
咖啡店员工 00:34
小Y老师，你的汀曼特调。
Café worker: [Mr. Xiao Y, here’s your Tin Master special!]
Xiao Y and Blackgoogle came out of the building with their drinks.
黑桐谷歌 00:36
我的是燃油饮Nitro-Fuel。哈哈，糖分有点高。这边（的邦布Bangboo）都是你们同事
吗？哪个（邦布Bangboo）是你？加班布Overtimeboo吗？
B: [Mine’s the Nitro–Fuel. Haha, it’s a bit high in sugar. Do these Bangboos represent your team? Which one are you? Are you the Overtimeboo?]
小Y 00:46
我没有对应的，哈哈……还是有蛮多痛车Itasha/decorated car。对，那个星见雅
Homishi Miyabi痛车Itasha/decorated car，在网上应该还能看到。
Y: [I don’t have a corresponding Bangboo, haha… but there are quite a few decorated/Itasha cars. Yeah, that Homishi Miyabi themed car should still be visible online.]
黑桐谷歌 00:53
这应该也是你们同事的车吗？
B: [Is that also one of your coworkers’ cars?]
小Y 00:56
啊对……我们自己同事的车。
Y: [Right, these are our coworkers’ cars.]
黑桐谷歌
真爱！
B: [True love!]
小Y
然后前面的话还有一些机车什么的，对。前面就是这个，
Y: [There are also some motorcycles further down. Yes, that one over there.]
黑桐谷歌
星空布Starryskyboo（no official translation，it's in front of the Gadget
Store on the Sixth Street）吗？
B: [Is this the Starryskyboo’s Backside Statue?]
小Y
星空布经典poi（point of interest）六分街Sixth Street上就是有这个东西的，然
后谷歌老师肯定见过嘛，这个。
Y: [Yes, that classic point of interest on Sixth Street, and you have definitely seen it, right?]
黑桐谷歌 01:08
狡兔屋Cunning Hares当年就是躲在它后面，躲过那个谁的追杀。
B: [Once upon a time the Cunning Hares hid behind it to evade someone’s pursuit.]
小Y 01:12
对，这应该是等比的，然后旁边还有冰激凌是吧？然后当时它第一次出来的时候，这
个动作包括冰激凌，我组里的同时比较惊讶。
Y: [That’s right. This is a full-size replica. There’s also ice cream next to it, correct? When the initial model for this statue was revealed to us, its pose and the very suspiciously shaped ice-cream really surprised my team.]
黑桐谷歌 01:20
那个一周年的时候，所有人都说，这居然是冰淇淋。
B: [At the first anniversary, all the viewers were like “This thing is actually ice cream”?]
小Y 01:23
要不我们就往里面走一走，好。然后这边的话，当时周年庆我记得还有流传一些，照
片。
Y: [How about we take a walk inside?] B: [Okay.] Y: [Now as for this area, I recall there were some photos of our lobby circulating during the anniversary celebration.]
黑桐谷歌 01:30
这怎么……我跟你一起进去吗？好好谢谢。
B: [paraphrasing Do I just follow you to pass the turnstile? Oh okay, thanks a lot.]
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好久不见了，也是时候了。
Both: [Long time no see.] B: [Here we go again.]
黑桐谷歌
那么我们就开始我们言归正传，首先是有一个很关键的词叫“目标感”，我们知道对
于这种长线运营的游戏来说，就是目标感其实是一件非常重要的事情，它是支撑我们
玩下去的一个动力，绝区零现在也马上就要到2.4的版本了，目标感我觉得现在也是时
候该拿出来作为一个很重要的一件事情来说一说。
B: [Alright, let’s begin. First, there’s a very key term called “sense of
purpose.” We know for long-term games like this, having a sense of
purpose is extremely important. It’s what motivates us to keep on
playing. ZZZ is about to reach version 2.4, and I think now is the right
time to bring up this term as an important thing to talk about.]
小Y 02:06
我觉得目标感这件事情其实也是我们现在的一个新的认知。
Y: [I feel that the concept of a sense of purpose is something we’re only
now starting to truly understand.]
*Caption：目标感不够强？我们懂！
Caption: Not enough sense of purpose? We get it!
小Y
我们曾经会觉得，比如说你不断的短期的每个版本去提供给玩家一个新鲜的玩法或者
一个好玩的东西，这个目标感就能得以延续。但是你从长线的一个产品的角度上来讲
，我觉得是得给到一些更上层的一些目标的，你比如说剧情对吧？
Y: [We used to think that, for example, by constantly offering players fresh gameplay or fun things in each short-term update, their sense of purpose could be maintained. But from a long-term product perspective, I think we need to provide some higher-level goals, for example the story, right?]
小Y
玩家本身对于这些角色是喜爱的，对于你的剧情提供的哲Wisw和铃Belle的目标是非常
好奇的。所以说它得有一个一以贯之的剧情的目标，对吧？我操作了哲Wisw和铃Belle
，然后见证了什么样的故事的发展，并且主角在其过程中起到的作用是至关重要的，
对吧？我觉得是有这样的一个预期在的。
Y: [Players have affection for characters they like and are very curious about the goals of Wise and Belle in the story. So the story needs a consistent, overarching goal, right? Since we played as the siblings to witness stories unfold, the duo must play crucial roles within these stories, correct? I think players expect exactly that kind of experience.]
黑桐谷歌 02:52
现在是我们玩家包括我在内非常关心的一个话题。
B: [This is a topic that players, myself included, care a lot about right now.]
小Y 02:58
除了剧情以外，我还想提另外一个点，就是实际的游戏体验上。我们其实在游戏体验
上来讲，给到玩家的目标感，我就个人觉得还是会基于角色吧。对，我去获得一个角
色，或者说我对这个角色倾注了它对应的心血之后，它是有一定的回馈的，对，确确
实实我们在这件事情上是有做了一些实验的，然后甚至说我们针对类似于像箱庭
sandbox这样的模块，或者说我们的航天城对吧？比如曾经的航天城Aerospace City我
们做了一些探索上的这些体验，或许也会考虑如何进一步的让对应的代理人Agent发挥
他的价值。
Y: [Aside from the story, I also want to bring up another point, the actual gameplay experience. From a gameplay perspective, I personally feel that the sense of purpose we give players is still largely based on the characters. For example, I acquire a character, or invest my time and effort into them, and there’s a certain kind of reward for that. Indeed, we’ve done some experiments around this. We’ve even explored experiences in modules like the sandbox areas, or our Aerospace City, to see how we might further allow the corresponding Agents to realize their value.]
黑桐谷歌 03:39
可能其实你们围绕这个目标感是已经已经有所讨论过了，这些方面是吧。
B: [You’ve probably already had some discussions around this sense of
purpose, in these areas, right?]
小Y 03:46
刚刚提到那些目标感也好，或者说玩家长期游玩下去的动力，这件事情是做了一些定
期的复盘和思考的，但是这些复盘和思考它是不是是比较足够的或者充分的，我们也
希望正好借这次机会跟谷歌老师，跟玩家们一起分享一下。
Y: [The sense of purpose we just mentioned, as well as what motivates players to keep playing long-term. We’ve done some regular reviews and reflections on this, but whether these reviews and reflections are sufficient or thorough enough, we’d like to take this opportunity to share and discuss them with you and the players.]
黑桐谷歌 04:04
我们就围绕这个目标感，我们再进一步的详细说一说，我知道第二季窝藏在澄辉坪
Failume Heights这里的称颂会Exaltist Order残党已经覆灭了，伊瑟尔德姐姐也离我
们而去了，甚至大家还会有这种意犹未尽，甚至有一点小失落的这种心情，当时我就
在想第二季就到这里就结束了吗？后面要讲什么？称颂会Exaltist Order也没有了。
B: [Let’s go a bit deeper and talk more specifically about this sense of
purpose. I know that in Season 2, the Exaltist remnants hiding in
Failume Heights have already been wiped out, and Isolde has left us.
However, some players are still craving more, even feeling slightly disappointed. Like me, at that time I thought: Is Season 2 really ending here? What’s going to come next? The Exaltist is gone, after all.]
黑桐谷歌
叶释渊Ye Shi Yuan和莎拉Sarah在后面到底是策划着谋划着什么事情，然后还有主角
找老师，探索的旧都Old Eridu陷落的下一个目标又是什么？一直都没有什么进展。所
以说能不能再给我们明确一点，我们现在在做的是我们到底在做什么，我们接下来要
做什么，我们到底是在以什么事情为目标，
B: [What exactly are Ye Shiyuan and Sarah plotting back there? And with the duo seeking out their teacher, what’s the next step in uncovering the Fall of the Old Capital? There hasn’t really been much progress. So, can we get a bit more clarity? What exactly are we planning to do next, and what are we actually aiming for?]
小Y 04:53
这一点其实也是内部在讨论的一个核心议题。
Y: [This has actually been a core topic of discussion within our team.]
然后我们之前其实是依着我们的一些重要版本去设计一些终极的剧情层面的一些目标
，比如说探索旧都Old Eridu陷落的真相，找到老师有所关联的一些线索和钩子（Hook
，literally）对吧？
Y: [So far, we have been designing ultimate narrative-level goals around our major updates. For example, uncovering the truth behind the fall of Old Eridu, and finding clues and story hooks related to the teacher, right?]
然后再比如说在1.4版本的时候，布林格它消散之前，对吧？他其实是对这个事情是知
情的，对吧？
Y: [For another example, before Bringer dissipated in version 1.4, he was actually in the know about a lot of those secrets, wasn’t he?]
然后2.0我们之所以会去到卫非地Weifei Peninsula，也是为了去探索老师的一些踪迹
，不过这样做它其实对于一个更宏大或者长线的主线吸引力，就是你每次在一些关键
节点抛出一些所谓的关键的剧情片段，我说线索这件事情其实不太够对吧？
Y: [Then in version 2.0, the reason we went to Weifei Peninsula was also to explore some traces of the duo’s Teacher. But in terms of creating a bigger, long-term main storyline appeal, just dropping so-called key story fragments at version climax, in other words, just giving clues, isn’t really enough, right?]
我理解其实我应该是觉得不够的。
Y: [I get it. Honestly, I feel it’s not enough for the players.]
黑桐谷歌 05:41
确实感受到的玩着玩着的，因为本身（周期）又很长，中间每个版本之间，虽然说各
自故事阶段是讲完了，但是就很容易到下一个版本就忘记我是来干什么的。
B: [Yes, I really felt it while playing. Because the version cycle itself is quite long, and even though each version completes its own story segment, it’s easy to forget what I’m actually here for by the time the next version comes around.]
小Y 05:54
就关于这一点，我们最早在构思第二季的时候是有一条长线的这样的一个主线的故事
的，但是我们早期因为其实单元剧这件事情上是有一些经验的，所以说两者取了一个
相对折中的这样的一种方式，然后在其中去串联了一些更长线的线索目标，然后尝试
去循序渐进的展开，不过就是值得说的是在以后的版本的话，随着莎拉Sarah她逃离后
奔赴始主The Creator，我们后续的目标也会更加的清晰。
Y: [Regarding this, during our initial planning of Season 2, we actually already have a long-term main storyline in mind. But because we had accumulated experience with episodic storytelling rather than long-term, we end up taking a balanced approach. We woven in some longer-term clues and goals while trying to unfold them gradually. It’s worth noting that in future versions, after Sarah escapes and heads toward the Creator, our subsequent objectives will become even clearer.]
然后大家可以看到对吧，就是解决了伊德海利的溺想者Drowned Ideal的事件之后，叶
释渊Ye Shiyuan和莎拉Sarah登场，然后便是昭示着我们第二季的高潮马上就要到
了。
Y: [And as you can see, right after resolving the Drowned Ideal incident with Yidhari, Ye Shiyuan and Sarah make their appearance, signaling that the climax of Season 2 is about to arrive.]
到第二集的后半段的话，我觉得各位绳匠Proxy也会进一步的获得更多关于绳匠Proxy
老师的故事或者消息，对吧？围绕着之前新艾利都New Eridu的一些谜团，也即将逐步
的展开。
Y: [In the latter half of Season 2, I think all of you, the Proxies, will get to learn more story or info about the Teacher. Certain mysteries surrounding New Eridu are also about to gradually unfold.]
黑桐谷歌 06:50
不能再是什么？蜻蜓点水就点到为止了。
B: [So no more just dropping breadcrumbs this time?]
小Y 06:56
按照我们编剧老师的说法的话，这次信息量还是蛮大的。
Y: [According to our scriptwriter, there’s actually quite a lot of information this time.]
然后2.0我们之所以会去到卫非地Weifei Peninsula，也是为了去探索老师的一些踪迹
不过这样做它其实对于一个更宏大或者长线的主线吸引力，就是你每次在一些关键
节点抛出一些所谓的关键的剧情片段，我说线索这件事情其实不太够对吧？
Y: [Then in version 2.0, the reason we went to Weifei Peninsula was also to explore some traces of the duo’s Teacher. But in terms of creating a bigger, long-term main storyline appeal, just dropping so-called key story fragments at version climax, in other words, just giving clues, isn’t really enough, right?]
我理解其实我应该是觉得不够的。
Y: [I get it. Honestly, I feel it’s not enough for the players.]
黑桐谷歌 05:41
确实感受到的玩着玩着的，因为本身（周期）又很长，中间每个版本之间，虽然说各
自故事阶段是讲完了，但是就很容易到下一个版本就忘记我是来干什么的。
B: [Yes, I really felt it while playing. Because the version cycle itself is quite long, and even though each version completes its own story segment, it’s easy to forget what I’m actually here for by the time the next version comes around.]
小Y 05:54
就关于这一点，我们最早在构思第二季的时候是有一条长线的这样的一个主线的故事
的，但是我们早期因为其实单元剧这件事情上是有一些经验的，所以说两者取了一个
相对折中的这样的一种方式，然后在其中去串联了一些更长线的线索目标，然后尝试
去循序渐进的展开，不过就是值得说的是在以后的版本的话，随着莎拉Sarah她逃离后奔赴始主The Creator，我们后续的目标也会更加的清晰。
Y: [Regarding this, during our initial planning of Season 2, we actually already have a long-term main storyline in mind. But because we had accumulated experience with episodic storytelling rather than long-term, we end up taking a balanced approach. We woven in some longer-term clues and goals while trying to unfold them gradually. It’s worth noting that in future versions, after Sarah escapes and heads toward the Creator, our subsequent objectives will become even clearer.]
...（中间省略：继续原文的对话内容，包含对称职问题、版本进展、角色出场、叙事桥段、活动与地图等多段对话）...
小Y 37:59
确实我这边感觉能问的也是问的差不多了，小Y老师和团队，确实也能感受到，感受到
你们对于绝区零整体方向上，我刚问了一圈了，剧情、玩法、地图设计还有战斗
交互都是有考量和想法的。
B: [It does feel like I’ve asked just about everything I could. Mr.Xiao Y and the team, I can really sense your dedication and thoughtful consideration toward Zenless Zone Zero’s overall direction. From what we’ve discussed — story, gameplay, map design, and combat interactions, it’s clear you’ve put a lot of thought into all of it.]
小Y 38:18
是的，其实谷歌老师一开始提的目标感这件事情我是很认同的，对，虽然我们团队内
部的话不会用这个词去讨论，但其实它的指向的点是一样的，就是你怎么长期让玩
家玩下去对吧？
Y: [Yes, I completely agree with what Mr.Google mentioned earlier about the sense of purpose. While our team doesn’t necessarily use that exact term internally, the idea behind it is the same: How to keep players engaged and enjoying the game over the long term, right?]
玩家花了更多的时间，然后倾注了更多心血情感在代理人Agent身上，这样的话你只有
在对应的比如说游戏体验上剧情上甚至一些战斗机制上，能够做到能够匹配玩家的需
求，甚至可能提供一些差异化的体验，玩家才会愿意去玩下去，这是我们长期思考的
一个命题。
Y: [Players invest a lot of time, effort, and emotion into their Agents. So only by ensuring that the corresponding aspects, such as gameplay experience, story, and even combat mechanics, truly meet players’ needs, or even offer something unique and distinctive, will players want to keep playing. This is a question we’ve been thinking about for the long term.]
黑桐谷歌 39:57
我们会持续推进，支持大家的监督与反馈。
B: [We’ll do our best, and of course, we also welcome everyone’s ongoing feedback and oversight. Without all of your support along the way, Zenless Zone Zero wouldn’t be where it is today. So to everyone watching, please continue sharing your thoughts and feedback with us.]
小Y 40:08
我们尽力做到，当然也欢迎大家随时的监督，没有大家一路以来的支持，就没有现在
绝区零。也欢迎屏幕前的大家给我们多多提反馈。
Y: [We’ll do our best, and of course, we also welcome everyone’s ongoing feedback and oversight. Without all of your support along the way, Zenless Zone Zero wouldn’t be where it is today. So to everyone watching, please continue sharing your thoughts and feedback with us.]
黑桐谷歌 40:17
我就回去继续收集大家的意见，为下次提问做准备。
B: [I’ll head back and keep gathering everyone’s feedback. Time to start preparing my questions for next time.]
小Y 40:22
我觉得谷歌老师可以按照自己的节奏来了，那么。
Y: [I think Mr.Google can go at his own pace, then.]
黑桐谷歌 40:25
我们这期的节目就先到这里了，我们也先放小Y老师回去工作了，谢谢大家的观看。
B: [That’s all for this episode. We’ll let Mr.Xiao Y get back to work now. Thank you all for watching!]
小Y 40:33
我们下次有机会再见，拜拜。
Y: [We’ll see you next time when we get the chance, bye-bye!]
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